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Re: aradian witches?
Tue, July 19, 2005 - 6:24 PMThough, I don't believe in labels, as I just use the word witch in describing myself, Aradia is the one who I follow in most practices. -
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Thu, August 25, 2005 - 10:28 PMI'm not so into labels myself, but i came across the term "Aradian witch" and that is the best way i can describe this specific vein of magick. I want to connect with others who feel empowered to challenge their own Karma in pursuit of what they feel is right use of their will...even if that employs darker sorcery in the process.
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Tue, October 18, 2005 - 6:03 PM<<nt to connect with others who feel empowered to challenge their own Karma in pursuit of what they feel is right use of their will...even if that employs darker sorcery in the process. >>
Come again? I'm not sure what this means... karma what?
This doesn't make any sense. Karma is just the consequences of one's intentional actions in a web of cause and effect. Plant a seed and it will bear fruit according to its nature. This isn't something you can challenge, it is a natural law like gravity. What goes up must come down.
Are you trying to say something about taking risks? I'm not sure because the meaning of the word "karma" seems so garbled in your statement.
I'm not sure what you mean by "darker sorcery" either. Sorcery either works or it doesn't. There is only *effective* sorcery or no sorcery at all. It doesn't have anything to do with being a Goth or wearing black eyeliner. Are you trying to say something about being willing to hurt and manipulate people to get what you want?
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Re: aradian witches?
Sun, January 15, 2006 - 1:03 AMHi Miko,
I just want to point out that there are other interpretations of "karma" besides the one you've mentioned here. Seen clairvoyently, karma may look quite a bit different from the type of mechanistic cause and effect philosophy you've represented. Also, seen clairvoyantly, karma often can be changed. I anticipate that you might tell me that I'm refering to something other than karma. I'm not. I'm pointing to the same phenomena, though not the text-book definition of the philosophy of karma.
I'm fairly certain as well that there are differnt views on what sorcery is and is not.
We're not dealing with laboratory science here. And frankly, I'm not sure that magick is mechanistic or formulaic at all. If it is, it isn't magick--it's the manipulation of known and stable forces. Magick can occur despite the laws of physics and nature--and doesn't seem to be aware of ethics or even the potential consequences of "karma". This is just my opinion, of course, based on my own experiences.
Why do you find it necessary to be so imperious and insulting to someone who is obviously seeking and trying to find words to describe what she is reaching for outside of the norm?
saeth
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Re: aradian witches?
Sun, January 15, 2006 - 1:35 AMWhat is your definition of dark sorcery? Are you referring to using magick to harm others? Or are you refering to the methods used to cast spells, etc.
What would you employ this sorcery for? To harm others who have harmed you? To gain access to knowledge and other things you wouldn't be able to access otherwise? To change the world?
I'm still in a drawn-out internal debate over what use I should put my will to. I recognize that my understanding is finite, and that sometimes I have strong emotional reactions so situations that are partly based on my lack of complete understanding. Is it better to heal a situation, or is it sometimes justifiable and even wise to use aggression?
There were once Fighter Priests in Ancient Egypt. I'm trying to discover some indepth information about them to gain insight into this debate.
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Re: aradian witches?
Fri, September 9, 2005 - 8:43 PMDepends how you define Aradian, though I do fit along with the hating labels thing. Gotta be my favorite creation story, and a female messianic figure here for the thieves and oultcasts etc draws me in deeper.
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Fri, September 30, 2005 - 11:31 AManother Aradian here from the Bay Area in CA. -
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Re: aradian witches?
Sat, October 1, 2005 - 6:13 PM
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Re: aradian witches?
Tue, October 18, 2005 - 5:04 PMYes, there are....I am one of them...Strega to be specific....
I am Kitawna Gypsy Magyar Tribas....and was initiated into (a paternal hereditary tradition stemming back from my ancestral Italian relatives) when I was 16. I consider myself an ecclectic pagan as my traditions and training consist of many traditions.
The main traditions of my path are: Stregheria, Gypsy (both hereditary), Aradian, Cherokee Medicine Ways, Scottish Wita and Scottish Folkways, Hellenistic, Correllian Nativist Tradition, Dianic, Celtic, Germanic, and a few others.
Not sure what else to put here....as my profile tells the rest....any questions, feel free to post or email me....
Peace Love and Light,
Ciao,
Kitawna
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Re: aradian witches?
Sun, January 15, 2006 - 1:09 AMI started out dedicatng to Diana and Aradia a couple of years ago. Shortly thereafter the Goddess Hekate chose me in no uncertain terms. I still worship Diana and Aradia though, and consider that I am still devoted to them. -
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Tue, January 24, 2006 - 5:40 PMWow...this is the first time i've read what Miko wrote in response to my initial post. He wrote that after the last time i checked this tribe, but responded way up there instead of at the end of the thread. So no, i have not been too afraid to respond or defend my opinions, i have just not been back to this thread since October.
Thank you, Saeth, for your input. I think you know what i was getting at. I agree, Karma is not ONLY the black and white cause-and-effect, eye-for-an-eye formula that Miko describes it to be. What i meant by challenging Karma is the same thing i mean by challenging the astrological profile you were born with. Yes, we are dealt a hand according to past choices but we do have free Will and don't have to accept that fate. Yes, i was referring to taking chances when i wrote that. I'm a risk-taker, but a calculated, always-protected sort of risk taker. I am aware of the potential consequences of what i might do with my Will and if i feel strong and safe enough, i will challenge the "powers that be" to achieve my goal. When i first wrote that, i was flirting with the idea of controlling others magickally. I have since changed my mind about that. What Aradian Magick means to me is that i have a great responsibility to choose who and what needs to be provoked for the good of all mankind--and NOT solely for the good of my emotional health or sanity.
Miko, I do have to ask what drove you to attack me and what i wrote. I made no reference to being a Goth, and certainly not a Hot-Topic variety of Goth. You made an assumption about me based on ??? i don't know--you tell me. You seem to have implied that i'm a poser of some sort and i'm curious as to how you jumped to that conclusion. I used the term Darker Sorcery because i do believe there are infinite shades of what we can do with our Will. Sorcery is an extension of Will. I feel that there is a difference between Magick and Sorcery but i could not tell you what it is--i am learning the differences as i work. Sure, sorcery either works or it doesn't, but intent determines how dark or light it is.
I believe that i can practice Aradian witchcraft and still be a kind, compassionate person who takes care of and looks out for others. How about you?
m7
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Re: aradian witches?
Fri, February 24, 2006 - 5:58 PMHi, madame7,
I consider myself Aradian, though I am not Strega. Her teachings resonate with me. Most of all, I am thoroughly enamored of Diana, which is what brought me here. She has been my patroness for about eight years. During some of that time, we have been close, and during other times, we have not spent much time together; but all I have to do is concentrate on her and she just sends me.
One of the things that has always frustrated me is the lack of worship material for her. Why are there no songs to her? No dances? No hymns of praise, other than a few written thousands of years ago?
Sometimes I wonder if people are afraid to draw close to her, because they fear the awe and adoration she inspires. Perhaps they think it's too "Christian." If that's true, then I think it's tragic.
May the blessings of our Divine Lady be with you, all of you. :-)
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Unsu...
Re: aradian witches?
Thu, March 9, 2006 - 5:48 PMYes there are many of us. I thought you may wish to see www.sitepalace.com/marialis/
Blessed Be
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Re: aradian witches?
Thu, March 9, 2006 - 5:58 PMmaking little cakes as we 'speak'
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Re: aradian witches?
Tue, September 18, 2007 - 1:05 PMUmmm not me! Hahaha I'm kind of weird like that. I don't use the "W" word but I don't have a problem with it either. Aradia is a great role model, probably the perfect one for folk magic or a modern darker magical style. I am soooo not fluffy so the Karma thing doesn't fit with me. It's an Eastern concept so I don't see a need for it in European magic. I do find the coarseness of folk magic to be more to my liking than the incarnation of modern witchcraft. In that... Aradia is the best.
Yours,
~Gen~
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Re: aradian witches?
Thu, May 1, 2008 - 4:55 PMWhen I was very young, I found a Holy stone in a sandpile beside an old walnut tree. Moments later Diana apeared, bow, hounds and all! Next thing you know fata(fairys came out of the wood). I assure you that the goddess is real, as are the fata and her daughter Aradia. Then I grew up and found stregheria, so I for one know that the old legends are true, from the fairys in the walnuts, to the mythical powers of the strega.
